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@Heda#113614 I'm sorry but the design is not a problem, people 'offended' by it are a problem. Also, you're not offended by a freaking card, you're just [...].
đźââïž Sander: watch your language!
@Heda#113614 I'm sorry but the design is not a problem, people 'offended' by it are a problem. Also, you're not offended by a freaking card, you're just [...].
đźââïž Sander: watch your language!
@Gaston#113843 You should watch your mouth. đ
The design becomes a problem if people get âoffendedâ by it. You canât change all peopleâs minds and you canât change other countries culture. Just look at Nike for example. They designed a shoe that offended Muslims all over the world. What did Nike do? They said âscrew you Muslims itâs your problem if you get offended by itâ. Right? Oops sorry it was the other way around. Muslims were angry and Nike apologized and discontinued that design. Thatâs what every sane person would do. But you would suggest that Nike was right and shouldnât have listened to the Muslims instead Muslims should stop and change right?
Companies should deliver good products and try to stay out of politics. Same goes for banks. If you want a rainbow card itâs fine. But you canât force everyone to think the same way you do.
@Heda#113871 It was an expression and wasn't directed towards you.
However - these days screaming 'I am offended' seems like an excuse to get things the way you want it if you don't like it. Offended is a feeling - completely subjective, what're you gonna do about it? You can't force policy from a company or government for the sole reason that you 'feel offended'. You don't think I see things I don't like, or am offended about? I do, but I am not crying about it.
If you get offended by a rainbow card, don't use it - it's as easy as that. Again, it's not the design that's a problem, it's the people. Also the Nike example is completely irrelevant since it's an entirely different story. For starters, it's because it concerns an international product sold in all markets, while bunq is Dutch-European.
@Gaston#113876 You seem to get something wrong here. No one is complaining that we the bunq users have a problem with the rainbow card. The problem is that other people might get offended. And if someone gets punched in the face because he used/showed his bunq card ... if you need to think twice before using your rainbow card then you have to agree that something is going the wrong direction. I donât mind the rainbow card but I think twice if I use that card when being in Russia for obvious reasons.
Just give people a choice to have different colors. Give them single colored cards with all of the bunq colors. I personally donât care of bunq will give us this option but as you can see from this topic there are people that want it. Like I said banks shouldnât make politics. So best is to stay out of something like this before you further damage your brand.
Before this topic was started I didnât even think about the card design being a problem. But like I said in my other post now when thinking about some reactions I got when paying with my card they appear in a different light.
@Heda#113878 if you need to think twice before using your rainbow card then you have to agree that something is going the wrong direction.
I don't really agree on that. There are some countries where cards like these aren't that accepted, it's just something bunq has to deal with (I don't know how they're going to do that). You can't just go to North Korea and hand them flyers about Elon Musk's space missions, eventhough nothing is wrong with that. If bunq wants that people use their card world wide all over the globe they need to keep these things in mind. At the end it's the choice of bunq, I will not be mad whatever they choose, but I don't wanna take the risk and use this card where it can be dangerous just to make a statement.
@Jos-Golden-Unicorn#113880 Maybe I got you wrong but that is more or less my point of view. Like I said if using the card may result in a bad outcome for me I wonât use the card. Basically what you are saying too, right? đ
@Heda#113881 Yeah I think we do agree on the same things. I'm only not 100% behind that quote, yes for us in the time and society we live in that would be the wrong direction, but in the end we cannot go to someone else's country and tell them that they have to face the fact that we want rainbow colors everywhere đ
@Jos-Golden-Unicorn#113882 đđ
@Heda#113881 Aber warum sollte man bunq einfach nicht verwenden, wenn bunq sich nicht einfach, speziell fĂŒr solche Situationen, anpassen könnte?
Aber eigentlich gĂ€be es auch so Möglichkeiten bunq zu verwenden, nicht aber die schöne bunte card benutzen zu mĂŒssen.
@Heda#113878 This is giving in to hatred instead of standing up against it.
I'm not opposed to the idea of giving users a choice in card, but saying bunq should've thought about this is just wrong. Your reaction shows that violence is an effective policy.
@Gaston#113888 Im not saying bunq should have thought about this. But it would be wise to take actions now and think about it now. If problems come up you have to deal with them. Giving more options doesnât mean to give in.
@Ashadebie-Lime-Panda#113278 Idioten!
auch wenn ich gerne ein anderes Design hÀtte, sollte man aus Protest bei dem aktuellen bleiben
@migst#113908 Da bin ich generell immer mit dabei.
Nur ist das wahrscheinlich nicht besonders witzig, wenn man im Libanon oder sonst wo mit der Karte zahlt und anschlieĂend von 10 konservativen Muslimen zusammen geschlagen wird.
Mooi gesproken Ali đ veel liefde terug en heel veel sterkte en God is liefde en wij mogen zijn wie we willen zijn en zoals we gemaakt zijn. Liefde is overal om ons heen en liefde overwint alles.. Samen zijn we en blijven we đ sterk Dewi volgeling van God
@Nielsb#112913 Was passiert ist, ist schockierend.
@Nielsb#112913 Aber was passiert ist, ist eben auch die RealitĂ€t. FĂŒr viele arabische LĂ€nder wĂŒrde ich mir ein anderes Kartendesign wĂŒnschen. Die Botschaft der Liebe kann ich nicht verbreiten, wenn ich umgebracht werde. Wir mĂŒssen uns der Welt stellen wie sie ist und sie ist nicht ĂŒberall Regenbogen. Mir tut es wirklich leid was geschah. Aber es gibt auch andere Kulturen als die westlichen und da gelten andere Werte.
I hadn't even associated the card with LGBT. I just thought it was a nice and colourful card, and not as bland as all the other bank cards. Idiotic how some people get so brainwashed that they get triggered at seeing a rainbow.
@Ramon-Purple-Bear#114476 And it's not even a rainbow.. missing violet and doesn't follow the same pattern. It even has dark colors which a rainbow obviously doesn't have given the fact it is made of light.
I really don't understand the confusion, they are so not alike.
@Xander#114923 Even the order in which the colors appear is not like a rainbow. First I didn't even associate it with the LGBTQ flag. However there should definitely be a different card design especially with all this controversy. You should not feel uncomfortable when paying with your card. I really like bunq and also the ideology behind all of it and I am happily paying for it. However I also want to feel safe when traveling in certain countries.